Posted Nov 13 2009, 04:00 PM by Rod Chong with 68 comment(s)



What started out as a joke turned into something that a lot of people can relate to. As kids we'd take apart our Maisto 1:18 scale model cars and pull springs out and basically make the model un-rollable in order to set the stance up correctly. I have hundreds of these models somewhere in storage and in my garage.

It was around 2003 when the term was coined. We were pushing the limits of offset on our drift cars and one day a friend of mines (Jerry) said, dude.. that ****'s hellaflush. And that was that. It's not a new thing as we've seen in some magazines from Europe and Japan but it's a term we feel is fitting (excuse the pun) cause there are a few degrees flushness.

Degrees of Flushness. Flush, Mexi, Tucked and Hella:



Mexi: When the offset of the wheels are off by a lot and are poking out of the fender. You see this a lot on low riders, lots of new 240 and ae86 owners, sometimes boro car owners in japan, and on 1970's vans for some odd reason.



Flush: Perfect Offset. Lowered but not slammed. Most people in our community refer to these as daily drivers. About a half inch fender to tire gap. Lots of drifters are flush just cause any lower,  you'll be dragging body kit as seen on Matt Powers and Mad Mike in his RX8, which we'll use to defined the term Hellaflush.



Almost: is exactly that, Almost. Almost perfect offset. Almost the perfect ride height. Super close but not quite there yet.



Hellaflush:
Perfect Offset, Super Slammed and Driveable. Most owners scrape over everything and it doesn't bother them. Its a lifestyle decision that many people don't want to get out of and conform to.

A great example is Mad Mike. Has the budget and bucks from big sponsors like Red Bull but doesnt raise his car up cause its best for the car. He just makes it work. His style is from the old school years of drifting. When people would slam the hell out of their cars and go for it. These days, you don't see many styled out pro drifters in the US  cause a lot have lost the "STYLE" part of drifting.



Tucked: Seen on a lot of VIP and bagged cars.

There are lots of advantages from having air bags. If you raise it from being tucked, you can be considered hellaflush since the camber adjusts as you go up.

In conclusion, Hellaflush is all about style. For those people that get super offended by it, refer back to this post cause really, most people do what they like and don't really give a damn what others say (although, some of you do) :)…

Come to our event this Saturday to experience what it's all about.

-Mark Arcenal

Hellaflush Website

 

 


Comments

kowalski said:

mexi??? really?

this *** is stupid

November 13, 2009 4:36 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

franka24 said:

lol, that maxi mr2 looks hellaweird!

November 13, 2009 4:46 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

ed said:

baggers are eh

November 13, 2009 4:46 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Linhbergh Nguyen said:

I'll see you guys out there tomorrow!

November 13, 2009 4:47 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

dan said:

The mr2 has  slicks and 13xwide wheels with cut fenders for autox/track use. Thats far from "mexi-flush". dont start to disappoint me speedhunters.

November 13, 2009 5:01 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Kevin Montgry said:

LOVE "HELLA FLUSH" but it suck on UK roads

looks like its Flush only for us Brits =(

November 13, 2009 5:11 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

haternation said:

hellaflush = hellagay

November 13, 2009 5:11 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Flash said:

Interesting insight into what you guys think is perfect. Defnintely not for me though. I would never intentionally damage my car.

November 13, 2009 5:17 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

JB18 said:

That s2k is sick!

November 13, 2009 5:20 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

josh said:

google it. that mr2 pops up cause it is what it is. would you say its flush? doesnt matter what its used for, it is what it is.

November 13, 2009 5:30 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

H3-AE86 said:

that van is F***ing amazing!!!!!!

November 13, 2009 6:01 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Stankyfresh said:

Stankyfresh = some people think it's stanky and some think is fresh.

Stanky degrees:

Grime

Dutty

Mud

Fresh ""

is fresh. Period

November 13, 2009 6:20 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Swerv13 said:

ugh

November 13, 2009 6:57 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

David said:

Couldn't have said it better, Mark. It's definitely not for everyone, just like other car styles, but I love it. The hellaflush movement is only going to get bigger. Whether people here like it or not.

November 13, 2009 7:24 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Mike Kniewel said:

November 13, 2009 8:02 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Scott said:

The picture of the MR2 is to show an EXAMPLE of what Mexi  flush is, and it does it perfectly, especially because being "flush" is a style mod and not a PERFORMANCE one.

Stop taking it so personal.

November 13, 2009 8:05 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Jason Hoang said:

Nice! I took that picture of the Mr2 at one of our track days! haha it was pretty crazy!

November 13, 2009 8:19 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

jaded said:

Not my cup of tea at all, but I gues it's "mad tyte JDM yo"

November 13, 2009 8:29 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

joe said:

you forgot a subcategory under tucked.....on aircooled vw's we call that "sunken battleship"

November 13, 2009 8:35 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

hechtspeed said:

Cool stuff.  I dig hellaflush, but I probably won't be hella.  I know, I'm weaksauce.  :0  ha ha

November 13, 2009 9:03 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

made up words said:

i too am a little disappointed by this post.  speed hunters should feature cool cars, not try and define slang words.  hella flush means different things to different people, and its not a blogs job to tell us what it means.  in fact in so cal, only lame people say hella.  i digress.  the point is that this post was really pointless except for the pictures.  you're not websters, so dont try to be.  made up definitions for made up words... stick to clothes fatlace.

November 13, 2009 11:14 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

repentharlequin said:

once again, nothing but hate, can all the haters just stay off the site for the rest of the month, if you don't dig the "slammed" theme, just don't click on the picture. why hate? it just makes you look angry and pathetic.

November 13, 2009 11:48 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

toc said:

These kinds of posts make me check speedhunters even less. : |

November 14, 2009 12:07 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

longtimereaderfirsttimecommenter said:

Let's not forget that this is a Guest Blog. It's just an opportunity for increasing the audience for both sites. If it's not for you, let it slide. I'm lovin slammed month. Continue into December?

November 14, 2009 12:10 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Mike Kniewel said:

The black S2000 is from "Seen It!" crew in Chicago.

November 14, 2009 12:25 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Alfonzo said:

Car culture yo.  It encompasses a lot of automotive material... of gargantuan magnitude (it's a trap!) if you will.  If the Speed Hunter crew started posting recipes for crepes or some such nonsense I would probably complain. (unless they were delicious.) I like to learn as it is fun.  The varied content they provide increases my auto-culture knowledge. Which is rad.

November 14, 2009 1:43 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

josh said:

it's fun people.. it's not stating rules nor is it making fun of.

some of you guys take this so seriously. what have you guys done to change the scene or what have you even contributed to the scene besides hate on posts. the hellaflush crew if you've ever met them are some of the most down to earth guys that really are doing their thing.

i believe hellaflush was started 6 years ago so if you're hating, you've already missed the hater boat which means you're just late.

November 14, 2009 1:43 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Chris Davy said:

@ repentharlequin I agree to your idea, but I have a better one.

Haters should just stay off this site, period! There's a lot of us that have been viewing this site far before u haters and are SUPPORTING Speedhunters. We love the content, the style, the approach, the quality and the amount of work the Speedhunters crew puts into this site. So haters, go away and make your own hater site, how about that?

Children, really...

November 14, 2009 2:16 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

efcivicman said:

@Kevin Montgry: Exactly I'd love a hellaflush ls400 but thanks to our government and the future conservative on which  won't look after roads.For those of you Americans on here UK roads are atrociously bumpy and pot hole ridden patched up obstacle courses.Hence why you'll only see a few hellaflush cars in the UK(if at all).And i do think speedhunters you be defining word about car culture they are enthusiasts as well,Infact i refer to words speedhunters use when ever i talk to people, i use anti-grip to describe converted evos and scooby drift cars because i saw it on here.

November 14, 2009 4:26 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

RE-Xtreme aka GT-Roadster aka Russ said:

I like lowered cars. I like the look.

When the build is thought out and front and rear match, its great.

I do differ that the offsets on these cars you have shown above are 'perfect'. IMHO

The Hella Flush style defined seems to be about totally the wrong offset.

Are you talking tyre stretch or wheel offset? Is the position of the wheel important or the stretch of the tyre? It isn't explained very well

It seems people just buy any rims and thats the style? thats it?

So I like it at times when it has "style" and i think when the style is just unmatched rims, it's ***.

November 14, 2009 4:43 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

KBanks said:

THE INTERNETS ARE SERIOUS!!!!!!

November 14, 2009 4:55 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Jaime said:

Amen Mark

November 14, 2009 6:43 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

I'm sure you are said:

bah.  I'm already down to weekly checks... and if this the second thing I have to look at I won't continue.  I'm sure 15 year olds approve though.

November 14, 2009 7:34 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Monster Mark said:

Hellaflush its more than just a concept .. its a lifestyle... and I like it....

Good stuff brother...

November 14, 2009 8:10 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

TURBO2NR said:

LOL  i taught i was the only one that used to take the springs out of my model to slam them .. i dont feel so wierd anymore haha

November 14, 2009 8:22 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

johhny said:

You guys would probably cut your legs off if it looked cool. Handicapped is more than a concept, it's a lyfestyle, bro. Most people hate on this stuff because it's moronic and akin to slanty hat wearing, slang toting, rock chewers that most people try not to deal with. Non-functional, performance robbing, and at times, dangerous mods for the sake of looks. I don't think people would hate so much if it were such a backward concept. And honestly, what kind of toolbag legitimately uses 'hella' as a part of their vocabulary.

November 14, 2009 9:02 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Oxer said:

Interwebz r srs bsnzzzzzzzzzzzz! Obey teh haters! VRY SRS! Kthnxbai.

November 14, 2009 9:02 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Hella-UnFlush said:

Alright, the hate is getting old.  haters need to head to the BAY AREA and take a look for themselves.  Left and right one will see different STYLES of cars all over.  Legitimately you can see many different styles in the bay such as refereed to Mexi, flush, unflush, HELLAflush, or just a dumb show tuner with the latest turbo and as many tvs and subs as possible. At this point I dont understand how someone just hates so hard while not embracing different car life styles or their own.  Hella flush is a stance, and a pretty sick stance by far.  What's unique about it, is the ability to be able to obtain the flushness in your car and the process that goes a long with it. but what ev you'll still hate anyways

November 14, 2009 9:57 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Zac said:

too bad johnny, it's already been tagged as hellaflush so that's what it's called now. That red car(probably a jetta or golf) for me is almost hellaflush or flush for short lol, i prefer that the rim line up perfectly with the end of the fender, in that pic it's slightly past it and that the tire line up too. I like the stretched look but i hate being able to see part of the rim where the tire is supposed to be covering it.    

November 14, 2009 9:57 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Zac said:

@ RE extreme, yea if i understand what you're getting at, the tires on the nsx are flush but the rims are a little mexi.

November 14, 2009 10:03 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Robert said:

Hmm...I see I'm not alone in not liking the hellaflush fad. haha Oh well..things come full circle. It'll only be a matter of time before more traditional wheel fitment comes back.

November 14, 2009 12:18 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Section09 said:

@Johhny: "You guys would probably cut your legs off if it looked cool. Handicapped is more than a concept, it's a lyfestyle, bro." Funniest comment ever.

I think this post is good because its relevant to car culture around the world. I like Hellaflush, I think it looks cool, and if you can make it work then +10 for you. Most of the D1GP cars are 'Hellaflush' but I'm sure they call it something else in Japan. Personally I dont know how someone could not like deep offset wheels on a dropped car. Some wheels look so much better depending on the sizes, TE37's and CE28's for example. They look beautiful on the Amuse S2300 GT-1.

Someone said: "mad tyte JDM yo", How is that statement relevant to this? These wheel fitment ideals have been done by enthusiasts on an international scale. You see this a lot more in the euro scene as well.

November 14, 2009 1:14 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

David W. said:

"mexi", just a tad bit borderline....ahah

November 14, 2009 2:42 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

hellawhat said:

I don't understand how anyone who calls themselves a car enthusiast can run suspension setups like this knowing it'll damage their car, and be fine with it. What kind of backwards-ass logic is.

November 14, 2009 2:51 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

hellafail said:

worst post on speedhunters.

November 14, 2009 4:12 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

kev kev said:

god job on the feature, i love cars so low they scrape and some of those fitments i desperately want!

loving it speedhunters

November 14, 2009 4:29 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

chippeRX7 said:

F#ck the Haters . . . You guys really are cool and important with all your negativity.

Speedhunters, keep doing your thing!

Haters shut up!

Hellaflush, keep pimpin!

November 14, 2009 5:14 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

David said:

Wow. I'd hate to see what some of you guys would say if Speedhunters did one blog post on K-car styling or even (gasp!) low riders! Everyone's superiority complex is a bit much. I'm so glad this is not so true in other countries. I only see this much hate on US based blogs and forums.

November 14, 2009 5:27 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

EMPCO said:

"honestly, what kind of toolbag legitimately uses 'hella' as a part of their vocabulary."

-this was the best comment on the site!  

this "hellaflush" term is just about as beat to death as "murdered out"...  I dig the concept to an extent but please, grown men using the word "hella" is just wrong and pathetic!  

by the way, euro guys, especially many VW OG heads have been pullin off the most proper offesets since before most of you even had a drivers license...

November 14, 2009 5:56 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Leigh said:

Dope post Mark

While all you haters are keyboard racing and/or pissed you couldn't shave a 10th of a second...we'll all be having fun with our cars

November 14, 2009 5:59 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

D4NM4C said:

does anyone know the specs of that s13?

November 14, 2009 6:19 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Jimmy said:

It's unfunctional how? because you did tried it, did it wrong, and now you scrape everywhere?  Hellaflush can be functional, as long as you dont just drop, widen and then call it a day. and its ugly because you like massive wheel gap and +50 offset?  if you hate, say why you hate, instead OMG HELLFAIL.

November 14, 2009 7:02 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Hellatheshit said:

HellaFlush is sick!!!

WOULD ANY HATERS LIKE TO BUY A VOWEL?????

GO F_CK Y_URS_LF

November 14, 2009 9:14 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

sean jay said:

man, i like saying hella

November 14, 2009 10:10 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

F_Haters said:

All you haters just can't open your minds up about anything.  Give props to where and what it is, simple.  Each to their own style that they want, so if you don't like it; go f_ck yourself.  "Hella" is a slang word, so what get over it.  All you dumb kids love sayin "Sweet", "Bomb", "Rad".  You're all pathetic and I'm sure many of you call an ENGINE a MOTOR...Lol!  Just like the term "rice".  Lol...just cause it's a "Honda" it's rice.  Right...I'm sure this "HellaFlush" look is "rice" to you haters as well.  Lol.  Get educated...and I'm sure you can't even build your own damn car with your own hands.  Majority of you stupid toolbox factory factual info reading d bags love to talk so much on forums, but you don't even have sh!t yourself or afford it.  Just cause it's so low means it's not going to be functional?  Really?  Do you own that car?  Real car people understand and give props where it really is.  All you haters are just bandwagon fad wannabe follower d bags who will move on and leave the car life within time soon, so shut the f_ck up.  Speedhunters and HellaFLush are doing their thing just fine.  Keep em Haters crying!

November 14, 2009 10:37 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

30psi said:

"All you haters just can't open your minds up about anything.......

.....Speedhunters and HellaFLush are doing their thing just fine.  Keep em Haters crying!"

The ignorance of this post is staggering.

November 15, 2009 1:08 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

what? said:

can someone please explain to me how your car's stance transforms into a "lifestyle"?

don't gove me some story about a crew neither.

November 15, 2009 3:04 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Patrick said:

I wish everybody could stfu and just enjoy the cars.

November 15, 2009 4:40 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Oxer said:

@what?  

Do you even know what the deffinition for lifestyle is? Do any of the haters know either? I suggest you read a dictionary and find out for yourself. If you dont like the way WE (the minority) like to live our lifestyle, that is your problem, Not Speed Hunters... Like I said earlier, this is very serious business. Extremely serious. I may have to loose sleep because of it. I dont know how I am going to live with myself building a car that is "stanced". I may have to see a doctor about it because apparently it is a problem to be in love with something so beautiful... Oh the seriousness...

November 15, 2009 5:14 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

HellaWut said:

Interesting how you are immediately branded a "hater" if you are not a fan of this hellaflush "lifestyle." Guess what? People are still allowed to have an opinion, whether they agree with you or not.

And if "most people do what they like and don't really give a damn what others say," nobody would be typing out angry replies to the "haters" for the lack of "props."

November 15, 2009 9:42 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

johhny said:

"can someone please explain to me how your car's stance transforms into a "lifestyle"?

don't gove me some story about a crew neither."

It's very complicated, but I can tell you it involves the presence of an extra 21st chromosome.

*puts away sh;t covered stick*

November 15, 2009 9:54 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

jhooks said:

Hater is just a current slang term... get over it people. Now let's see more hellaflush cars. I like speedhunters because they have a good vision of what the CAR scene should be like... LOVE. Show a little love. There is tons of different styles and purposes. We all know this.. I don't wanna hear and ear full from a track enthusiast everytime I post my daily driven slammed car that isn't built for the track (duh!)...

November 15, 2009 10:09 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Scott said:

Once again, more people hating because of the use of a term widely used in NorCal.

Some people accept it, and some people refuse to. I don't care.

If this was called "FLUSH LIFESTYLE" a bunch of flush nut huggers and band wagoners would be all over this post talking about how sick the cars were, and how dumb the MR2 looked etc.

But because it comes from someone involved and a contributer to the scene, the haters come out in hoards to be "heard".

Trying to rationalize your idea of functional to people that don't care about functionality in the car scene is like trying to make apple juice from chocolate.

Just let people do their own thing or you can keep bitching about how non-functional it is.

November 15, 2009 11:01 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Pat Daly said:

Mexi? Really. Is that like the guy on here last week who called a "DUB" looking car nig rigged? Real classy.

November 15, 2009 12:26 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

PleaseFlushDontHush said:

"FLUSH LIFESTYLE?" Sounds like a hygienic movement, count me in! I hate people who don't flush after they use the bathroom too.

November 15, 2009 12:33 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Exhibit D said:

Funny how every post turns into bickering now, Every post Speedhunters puts up(no matter how small or large) is much better than anything any of you have made on your bullshit blogs. Copy and paste wasters.

November 15, 2009 3:45 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Ron said:

Looks like a lot of people don't get it. Doesn't matter because haters will just disappear and be forgotten. Stay ignorant and closed minded. Funny how some people get so emotional. Cars can perform AND look good. Nice post Mark.

November 15, 2009 4:30 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Zac said:

They can perform and look or they can do both! but then again there are various degrees in between and i guess that's what some ppl dont have a tolerance for when they are engrossed with finding the optimal look and handling mix. having problems with car vocaulary on the other is a whole different thing, i dont think you are a dousch if you use the word hella but i do agree there are a lot of dousches that use it. Mexi is def not on the same level as "nig rigged" haha because it's mexi because of lolo's which are mexican culture so nothing wrong with that imo.  

November 16, 2009 1:28 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters