Posted Mar 05 2010, 07:07 PM by Speedhunters with 44 comment(s)

It's been a while since we have seen a Japanese Supercar on US shores.

While we were all excited to see the new Nissan R-35 GT-R, rumors were circulating that this car was so electronically advanced that it could not be modified.  Here at AMS we were intrigued by this notion and so was Chuck Hannold of the popular GT-R forum board Nagtroc.  As time passed tuners including ourselves have been finding ways to improve the GT-R but Chuck was looking for something more.

Chuck established a lofty goal of 1000 horsepower while retaining the GT-R's street manners and has commissioned us here at AMS Performance to get the job done.  We will be documenting the process of engineering and construction along with the difficulties of doing something never attempted before on the GT-R.

Below are the beginning stages of the build and the extensive measures needed to build a 1000hp GT-R!

Day one was as to be expected. Chuck’s injured GT-R arrived at AMS by one of our recommend covered transport carriers. The next time it gets loaded onto this carrier she will be touting over 1000 hp!

 

She looks like your run of the mill GT-R. The beauty of what we are about to do is that when we are done the aesthetics of the car will not change much. Well except for maybe a parachute! :)

 

The car came to us in pretty rough shape. The motor had been severely hurt and was unusable. It really was the perfect candidate for a build of this magnitude. Take a good look because the engine bay will never look like this again.

 

 A simple roll bar setup was installed by the previous owner. This setup is great for those looking for some high 10 sec passes but for Chucks 1000 hp build he will need an 8 second certified cage. This one will have to come out.

 

 The car came in with this nitrous system and is certainly a large contributing factor to the demise of the stock engine. This system will be completely removed. 

 

The tear down is about to begin.  In the background you can see another of our customers GT-R’s that is being out fitted with the AMS SR850 Package. It is still the current record holder on pump gas with a 10.4 @ 134mph trap speed in the quarter mile. Removing the front bumper and intercooler assembly unearthed a bunch methanol injection lines. Those along with everything under the  hood are about to be a memory.

The factory GT-R IC assembly is shrouded very nicely from the factory. This is something the AMS replacement unit will retain.

The VR38 is now removed from her home. From here we can begin to compile data and dimensions to engineer our own custom turbo kit.

Another shot of the shell of the GT-R. Space constraints are a real problem with this car so advanced engineering solutions will be necessary for this build.

In order to hold 1000 plus horsepower the GT-R transmission will need to be addressed. Some top secret ideas and products will be used in this build. Here you see our lead GT-R technician Ivan Phipps removing the entire GT-R subframe.

The previous owner’s water injection and nitrous wiring left a mess of wiring behind which had to be removed. The end goal is a car that looks and drives like stock…but just happens to be capable of flight with the right set of wings.

The first step in our engineering process is to measure the space we have to work with. Here you see Drew Johnson (engineer at AMS) using our Coordinate measurement machine (CMM ARM) to plot the points on the GT-R for cad design.

By using the CMM Arm he can touch any point on the car to record its respective measurement. Here you see Drew taking exhaust manifold dimensions.

After all of his data is collected he has the painstaking task of recreating the GT-R’s chassis and engine in CAD form so we can begin the development of the turbo kit.

This is the early stages of Drew’s CAD rendering. Here you can see how tight the GT-R engine bay really is.  It will be difficult to fit two much larger turbo chargers in a space not designed for them.

Here we have a view of the placement of the exhaust manifold flanges. The next step is optimizing that space and building the best manifold we can given those constraints.

The first rendering of the driver’s side is shown here with the wastegate, header and turbo.

Another view of the driver’s side highlighting the tubular manifold.

Using Drew’s talents we are now able to isolate the header itself. This piece will be the most complicated and expensive piece of the kit. Coincidentally this will also take the most time to completely develop.

Here is another shot of that same header. The V-band flanges will help in making this kit gasket free and easier to install.

To fabricate this piece by hand would not only yield an inferior product but be very time consuming. By casting the manifolds we are able to get the absolute most out of a given area and are not held back by the restrictive design and flow characteristics of a hand fabricated piece.

The next step was to take that design and print a 3D model using our rapid prototype 3D printer.

By printing an actual model like this we can build a demo kit to test for final fitment. This ensures that our customers will not only get the best performing product but the highest quality and best fitting piece.

In 3D form you can really see how intricate our header design is. All of the bends flow very smoothly and will result in some very impressive power output.

Heat becomes a big problem when confined to a small area. For this reason we had to employ a complex but suitable heat shield for our exhaust manifolds. Here we have the unwelded sample being tested for fitment.

The passenger side heat shield gets the same royal armored treatment. Just making horsepower is one way of doing things but making reliable horsepower is the AMS way of doing things.

Now that we have our header print we can actually assemble the mock up kit. Here the kit really starts to take shape. The beginnings of the downpipe are present along with the turbo outlet, header and wastegate.

The passenger side looks much of the same. I cannot stress enough how tight this area is and how fractions of an inch play a role in product development.

Take notice of the compressor outlet pipe. We must cast this piece as well due to the complicated bends needed to wrap around existing components in the engine bay.

Now the engine gets set into the car for final clearancing and test fitment. Once this is finalized we can begin to have our 3D prints turned into casted components.

With the engine reinstalled you can see how little space we have to work with.  Our precise engineering resulted in OEM like fitment.  Stay tuned for updates as we continue development of the GT-R turbo kit and our goal of 1000 hp!

-AMS Performance


AMS Performance Website


Comments

ITRbroham said:

WOW....that is some nice engineering,

March 5, 2010 7:41 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Tyler Grimsley said:

wow!

March 5, 2010 7:45 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Kohen said:

3D Printing is sweet!!! =)

March 5, 2010 8:15 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

rtryb13t2 said:

exactly what he said WOW!!!!

March 5, 2010 8:25 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Veneno said:

Subscribe me to this gtr progress.always my dream car of choice(i know,i know there's the veyron,the zonda,the f1,etc,etc,etc)but for the money this one is perfect.good luck

March 5, 2010 8:46 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Veneno said:

Subscribe me to this gtr progress.always my dream car of choice(i know,i know there's the veyron,the zonda,the f1,etc,etc,etc)but for the money this one is perfect.good luck

March 5, 2010 8:46 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Matt Wang said:

so cool.

March 5, 2010 9:23 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

mileoutrage89 said:

leave it to ams to do something as amazing as this

March 5, 2010 9:44 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

BoostGear.com said:

Flat out balling.

March 5, 2010 10:15 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

gotwell said:

holy $hit

March 6, 2010 1:36 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Chubby Chaser said:

Epic WIN!

March 6, 2010 2:25 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Backfire20vt said:

ok this is indeed WOW...

but the owner sure didn't apreciate the car before.. installing NOS? :S

i wanna bet that NOS broke the engine!

March 6, 2010 2:59 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Alex said:

I've been following this thread on AMS's blog for several months now.....nothing new.....great stuff though, and can't wait to see this car making 1000 hp.

March 6, 2010 3:09 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Veneno said:

Subscribe me to this gtr progress.always my dream car of choice(i know,i know there's the veyron,the zonda,the f1,etc,etc,etc)but for the money this one is perfect.good luck

March 6, 2010 3:59 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Veneno said:

Subscribe me to this gtr progress.always my dream car of choice(i know,i know there's the veyron,the zonda,the f1,etc,etc,etc)but for the money this one is perfect.good luck

March 6, 2010 3:59 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Engineer said:

What's with the hearse?

March 6, 2010 5:21 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Jeroen Willemsen said:

Incredible attention to detail. Amazing engineering.

March 6, 2010 6:01 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Kenneth said:

The engineering and extreme attention to detail have always been and will continue to be what truly sets AMS apart from your "run of the mill" tuning shops. I feel that I must thank you guys for inspiring me to push my project, but more importantly my knowledge, even farther. I eagerly look forward to the finished product.

March 6, 2010 6:19 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Eason said:

The magic these guys can work with a car is incredible!!!!!!!

March 6, 2010 6:37 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

787-GD3 said:

I have been following this build from the AMS blog, but everytime I see it I am soo impressed !!!

AMS Performance you truly are a world class tuning shop !! You guys excel at everything you do from 1/4 mile cars, Time Attack Cars, Customer Cars, to The Castrol Syn Top Shop challenges... Kudos

March 6, 2010 9:41 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

RX7-addict said:

Hell yeah! I study engineering in a T.E.I. and now I'm so f@king excited!!! I realy hope i become like those guys....!

March 6, 2010 10:32 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

sil80sr20 said:

oooohhhh snap.

ish just got real.

March 6, 2010 11:19 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

GTR Bomber said:

Um, it looks like a junk yard motor with a bigger turbo on it. I am just wondering how they expect it to pick up 500hp with just a bigger turbo. I see no modifications to the block. The block needs to be sleeved and bored out to a 4L with steel sleeves, not the plasma coated aluminum. This thing will not breach 700hp and will probably blow up on the Dyno....Back to the drawing board with another 100k

March 6, 2010 12:25 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

kstyle said:

new gtr engine bays look weak.... i miss the good old days when there were ruby red rb26s with 2 big twins peering at you up from the engine bay...

March 6, 2010 3:45 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Wes said:

The previous owner of the car installed the nitrous and Methanol kit, for some time this was the quickest and fastest GTR in the country under the Samurai Speed banner.   The trans was one of the first to receive the PPG  upgrade and then the owner blew the car up, and Chuck bought what remained of the car.  From what I know AMS is going to be building the engine as well and it's bound to be a screamer.  Best of luck to them and Chuck in this technological marvel.

March 6, 2010 3:47 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

911Turbo said:

nice very nice!!!

March 6, 2010 4:26 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

NISMO OMORI FACTORY said:

Top engineering here!

Must post results when done!

March 6, 2010 5:17 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

skalski21 said:

@GTR Bomber

im sure that not the turbo kit ONLY that will make it to a thousand horses. like they've said:

"Just making horsepower is one way of doing things but making reliable horsepower is the AMS way of doing things."

March 6, 2010 6:48 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

livefast said:

Ehh. their def rebuilding the block. that's the part that's hurt. their also upgrading fuel system, cooling and doing some crazy things with the trans. their very intricate with everything. this was 1 post about 1 part, just to show the details they go to and through. building a bulletproof motor is a pretty simple task. like you said Steel Sleeves+ forged bottom end with stroker/destroker kit that can create the right rpm range+headwork+fuel,air+ tune=1000+hp. not a really hard formula.

Putting that power to the ground (drivetrain),

keeping things dependable. (oil pressure, temps down, etc),

and making it street-able, are the things im interested in.

March 7, 2010 2:03 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Prowler said:

GTR Bomber sounds like a hater to me.... You think those guys are just going to throw on turbos and make the power they are pushing for, come on stop hating on AMS....

March 7, 2010 3:21 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Nisslehoff said:

GTR Bomber CLEARLY has never seen AMS work before lol. Don't hate because you can't duplicate! :P

March 7, 2010 8:52 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

RedEvil said:

off topic, but, is that an old chevy cpriace hearse in the background of the 13th picture down?!

March 7, 2010 8:56 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Chuck said:

RedEvil - That is the worlds fastest hearse project haha.

www.amsracingblog.amsperformance.com/.../arnes-hearse

March 7, 2010 9:12 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

jma said:

nice ferro arm!  Is the software CATIA?

March 7, 2010 9:31 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

HighLift said:

GT Bomber is clearly out of touch with reality. How does one see engineering on this  level and come up with such a daft conclusion?

Regardless, looking forward to seeing Part 2 where hopefully we'll see  the motor tear down and some specs on the transmission etc. Also, does anyone know what ECU will be used? Has AMS cracked the factory ecu?

March 7, 2010 4:59 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

hellawhat said:

AMS does it again. Great work.

March 7, 2010 8:59 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

JDM YO said:

These guys are legends truly inspirational

March 7, 2010 9:17 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

JDM YO said:

These guys are legends truly inspirational

March 7, 2010 9:17 PM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

lacygulfport said:

that some piece of good engineeering i want to see the fukin video

March 8, 2010 6:46 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Cruelheart said:

I love it! The close tolerance engineering, the CMM Arm and the 3D prototype printer, it's all awesome.

March 9, 2010 5:33 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

Dusty Duster said:

"Just making horsepower is one way of doing things but making reliable horsepower is the AMS way of doing things."

I can see that.  I must say I'm very impressed at the level of true engineering displayed by AMS Performance.  I'm an engineer myself, and too often performance shops design things by the seat of their pants and do not actually engineer their products.

I am VERY impressed.  I can't wait to see how this build turns out.

March 9, 2010 5:58 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

MDeezy said:

I wonder how much Chuck paid for this "broke-in" toy?  :)

March 9, 2010 7:28 AM [flag as inappropriate] Speedhunters

tonster said:

The program they are using is SolidWorks

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