EVENT>>RED BULL TOP 32 REPORT

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Agnes — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 08:22:51 GMT

Sorry, I flagged comment from Chris above as inappropriate in error - all he stated is true!

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NASHY BOI — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:14:56 GMT

Whiter for the win without a doubt! All that way for a call like that! Ohh poor gaz ha ha

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chris — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:34:59 GMT

i am also shocked at the call given in the whiter vs forsberg battle whiter completely outdrove forsberg the cliping points were at the last half of the first turn and whiter hit all points perfect in his lead run with forsberg nowhere to b seen . whats the point in battling if your way behind i feel for whiter going all that way and getting delt the call .not good at all .whiter had never used the tires he was using b4 and had only driven the car twice b4 heading to the states

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Mike N.Z. — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:00:02 GMT

Look at the last two pics of Whiter vs Forsberg when Forsberg and Whiter are pretty much in the exact same position on the track in their lead runs but Whiter on the chase is hard up the inside of Forsberg where he should be but Forsberg on his chase is way behind and out wide... the chase driver should be getting his nose in on the lead driver in this case he completely failed and trailed behind as do I think the judges did to make the right call

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Ronnie N.Z. — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 08:54:30 GMT

Great website thanks. I thought however that this event was monitored by GPS on the cars. If so how come Gaz Whiter didn't get through? Maybe he didn't have Red Bull on his car???????

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ridgezero — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:14:52 GMT

i have to agree with umai "most" the decisions where solid. and i did like how they had the new rules for judging, altough i thought there where more one more times then i liked. anyway thanks for this coverage i missed a lot of the top 32, good to be caught up.

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Umai Kakudo — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:58:58 GMT

I agree with a few needlss OMT's. The runs were close but a winner could have been called. I'm in favor of as few OMT's as possible. Jared had to say "You just want to see them run again" a couple of times.

Other than that I thought the majority opinion judging was solid even if Ernie did get flustered at one point and mixed up the drivers that had just run and sounded like he had no idea what just happened in the prior runs when Jared stuffed the mic into his face. The judges booth is a busy place and he seemed caught off guard.

In the case of Forsberg vs Garry Whiter I called it for Forsberg as well. Yes Whiter pulled away on the 2nd run because his line was way shallow and missed the outer clip while Forsberg was taking the line the judges required on the outside starting in the middle of the plastic barriers. Forsberg did not lose any ground but was unable to make up for his longer line.

Keep in mind they were strictly judging on line in the first corner and gave more points to those close to the wall and docked anyone who was far from the wall. That was the MO all weekend and the drivers knew it. It seems that FD would rather see a tailing driver take the qualifying line than go with the D1 standard of disregarding line and focusing on how close the chaser is able to mirror the lead. Not as exciting but as long as it is consistent it works.

The deck was stacked in FD's favor but the unpredictability of drifting saw Gushi and Takatori fail to start in the Dirty 32 and Grenwald, JR, and Pawlak all crash out.

The competition would have been very different with more D1 drivers, that is for sure.

For all the judging arguments I fear the only thing that will settle them is when the RBDWC episode airs on SPEED.

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TougeNoMikado — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:55:52 GMT

ohh I really enjoyed this read.. kant wait for part 2..... BTW anyone kno what Luke Fink's motor that blew was?

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judges sucks balls — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:23:32 GMT

Bring back ALEX P!! way betttttttttttttttttttttttttttter judge!

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Chris M — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:45:41 GMT

Graham: Out of curiosity, why would you not do well with 600HP and large tyres on the European drift scene? Verging on making excuses me thinks! If you are going to pull out the generally slower tracks argument, surely big sticky tyres and big horsepower would mean you could walk away from anyone out of tight corners?

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Anon — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:47:52 GMT

Ernie Fixmer asked for quite a few one more times. It made me scratch my head.

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HRDNTS — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:43:12 GMT

I agree about the OMT Whiter vs Forsberg. I've read other peoples comments on the runs (who were at the event) and all were confused with the results from their battle. Sucks more as Whiter (IMO) has had a few bad calls against him in his home championship too... hopefully his luck will change soon!

Cheers for the detailed posts and great pics as always :)

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Graham Callaway — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:24:01 GMT

It wasn't a real world championship, more of a world exhibition match.

As a platform to show the worldwide growth of the sport it was a fantastic event and probably much better organised than anything D1 could have pulled off. It was also an ideal demonstration to the USA drivers that there is some amazing talent and even more amazing machines around. If you come to Europe and drift with 600Hp and fat tyres you will not do well. The cars reflected the local drift styles of the various countries quite well I think. The downtown excursion was something else and many of our drivers and crew are going to sleep with a big smile for the next few weeks.

Thank you FORMULA D and REDBULL for such an opportunity and great event.

Thanks to all the media and websites for such great coverage. Too bad we could not watch a live stream in Europe.

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DiscoQuinn — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:04:42 GMT

Can the fans judge the judges? lol

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Brian Harte — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:35:46 GMT

I wish more guys could have driven from around the world.

I think the judging was MOSTLY fair. There were a few things that were totally wrong, but most of it was spot-on

As much as I HATE to say it, Rhys,Tanner, Sam are really good drivers.

I don't think I got to see BonBon do a full run! What a bummer!!!

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Cam — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:09:19 GMT

The judges didn't favor the americans, at least andy yen didn't anyway.

If they did, Ueo would have lost too JTP. (which was a awesome battle imo)

The judges helped Fors over whiter, but screwed him over during his match against sam

Went both ways....

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Edgar — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:50:13 GMT

A couple of "One more times" should not have happened. There was a clear winner, but I guess the crowds weren't happy with it, so it changed judges views.

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David Tripoli — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:04:30 GMT

From video I have seen and stuff i have read the judges really did favour the Americans, why have a world comp when it's clear Formula D want one of their own to win.

ps. i feel sorry for Luke Fink and the Holdfords crew, they put so much into getting over there and to not be able to compete must have really killed them.

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Jzx100-Touge — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:10:31 GMT

thats such bull-sh*t about making Whiter have another run

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Domo-kun — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:08:33 GMT

Whoa! Great post – Thups up!

BTW: The Norwegian drift star is Fredric Aasbø (not Frederic Aasabo).

Cheers, Domo-kun